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Robi Pack Leader 
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Titan is a Staffordshire terrier, we are guessing his age to be around 9 months. He is now neutered, wormed, UTD on vaccinations and he is housebroken. Seems to be good with cats and FEMALE dogs. He does know sit and down. He will need a fenced yard as he likes to roam (which may stop now that he is neutered). More info will be posted as it becomes available. Any info on this boy please contact the corner. *If you would like to sponsor Titan, please do so using the S.A.P. donate button on the front page. Sponsors will be listed. 
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Robi Pack Leader
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OK, so a quick update on Titan. he has been neutered and seems to be healing pretty well. He is starting to play with Meeko (our cat)who is very tolerant of dogs. We do believe he has been beaten. My husband was in the yard working on his swing (golf) when titan saw and heard the swing he coward in the corner of the fenced in area for potty and once back in the house he ran away from my husband with his tail between his legs. It took him about 30minutes get warm back up to him. Using a water bottle for discipline seems to work well with him. He loves the furniture (which is a nono) and loves the girls (dogs). As far as Jake (our male golden/who is neutered) the only problem seems to be Titan wants to own all the toys and bones and food dishes. This only seems to be happening with Jake. But, when the two boys are outside together, they have as blast playing grab ass. I can give and take food and stuff from him with NO problems. He is very attention seeking but the sweetest damn dog! We now have (not including food and board) over $200.00 invested into the care of Titan. If someone wants to sponsor Titan and would like proof of the bills etc. Just ask me and I will be more than happy to email a copy to you.
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Robi Pack Leader
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An update: We are very sad, we thought we had an excellent home for Titan and I bet you know exactly what happen without me even sayin a word. Yep, he was being honest to his landlord about the breed and BAM NOT ALLOWED! He was all for having a dog there until he found this out. I am so sick of ignorance! Yesterday was one of those days, if anything was going to go wrong it did. ALL DAY LONG! I personally feel the public needs educated on the BSL breeds. Just like anything one person says something and it goes a mile without question.
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Catherine Pack Member
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Robin, I couldn't agree with you more. My Sarge is a Shepherd/Chow mix, and a total sweetheart. Pretty soon, my insurance company is going to change what breeds are 'allowed' and I'm afraid they will drop me if they find out what he is. This is racism, canine style. Everyone nowadays is so 'politically correct' when it comes to bigotry in humans, so why are certain dog breeds being singled out? I think that the ASPCA and The HSUS need to put public education at the top of their priority list, especially after the likes of Michael Vick. He got so much notoriety for his actions, yet AmStaffs were STILL vilified. You can't hold the dogs accountable for the actions of ignorant or cruel owners. I would like to suggest that we start lobbying for education on this subject, before it turns into Colonial Salem for the dogs.
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bitsysmom Pack Leader 
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OK - I have a question - what is the problem with certain breeds like Staffordshires? I didn't realize that certain breeds (other than pit bulls) have issues. I know some landlords don't like big dogs - but to single out certain breeds??????
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Robi Pack Leader
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Staff is a pitbull breed. There is a post on this forum regarding the BSL. I think the info is there for you to read Pam.
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Robi Pack Leader
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Catherine wrote: I would like to suggest that we start lobbying for education on this subject, before it turns into Colonial Salem for the dogs. Sounds like a great idea!
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bitsysmom Pack Leader
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Ok now this makes better sense. Thanks
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Joanne Pack Member
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Sorry, not a fan of pitbulls... We had a pair in our neighborhood that would wonder around and they killed cats all the time. Yes, the owners should have kept them in the yard or chained, but I don't trust them. There was another one that was owned by a little girl that I went to school with that bit another kid in the neighborhood. I was there, the kid was not provoking the dog. I just don't trust them and wouldn't rent my house to anyone that had one either.
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Joanne Pack Member
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http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20080519/Dog.Attack/ I didn't even have to look hard..
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Robi Pack Leader
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Although I do agree that there are plenty of bad dog owners out there I must point out that not all bad owners have Pit Bulls, they own dogs from every breed. I feel that BSL is a invasion of American people's rights, I also feel that by creating BSL we as Americans are condoning prejudice, because that it exactly what it is. What goes for one breed should go for all breeds as Pit Bulls are not by any means the only dog that bites, all dogs, all breeds have reported cases of biting. Statistics show that Lab's account for a large amount of annual reported attacks on humans. My point is simple, how can you ban one breed and not another for a past history of committing the same acts?
NON EDUCATED IGNORANCE!
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Joanne Pack Member
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I have never seen a report that a Yorkie KILLED A PERSON. I have never seen a report that a Pug KILLED A PERSON. I think there is a huge difference here. I have no problem with breeds being banned, but that is just my opinion.
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Robi Pack Leader
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ok, then what about all the other larger breeds. Every dog can bite and kill. Maybe a chichi can't get your throat but can still bite the crap out of you. Everyone is entitled to their opinions on the matter, but need to research before condoning, not taking the word of one and using it. I think people need to be educated before owning any breed for that matter.
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Catherine Pack Member
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Robi wrote: ok, then what about all the other larger breeds. Every dog can bite and kill. Maybe a chichi can't get your throat but can still bite the crap out of you. Everyone is entitled to their opinions on the matter, but need to research before condoning, not taking the word of one and using it. I think people need to be educated before owning any breed for that matter. AMEN. I stand by what I posted earlier on the subject of racial profiling, whether it be for dogs or humans.
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Joanne Pack Member
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The dogs make this list because of all of the rerports of them biting and killing people. I have never read a report that a Golden killed someone one, or a lab for that matter.... My friend had an Akita that we couldn't look in the eyes...SCARY! The thing was ready to snap. Why would someone want a dog like that? I was attacked by my grandparent's doberman. That was a good time. If anyone reads about a Standard Poodle killing anyone, please post the story....
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Catherine Pack Member
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Joanne, I can certainly understand your apprehension and fear when it comes to some dogs, but to blame an entire breed for what the actions of a few uninformed or uncaring owners is simply gross overstatement, and only serves to fuel the flames of prejudice. Are we to blame and ban all Muslims, because it was the actions of a few extremists who brought down the towers of the World Trade Center? Should we hold all Germans accountable for the actions of Adolph Hitler? Shall we punish all Caucasians for the actions of the KKK? I too was terrorized by a Doberman when I was younger, but have also known some very sweet and loving Dobes. I was also attacked by a chihuahua when I was younger, but got over my fear of the breed when I was an adult. My aunt and grandmother were attacked by my other aunt's Chow Chow, but I own a Chow mix now. Granted, some breeds of dogs WERE bred for guarding, some for herding, some for gaming, some for hunting, some for retrieving and yes--some for fighting. I don't judge the entire breed of dog based on one or two incidents, any more than I hold an entire race of humans accountable for the actions of a few individuals. Am I careful when approaching certain breeds? Of course, given my history and experience. But I will NOT advocate for certain breeds to be legislated out of existence, based on isolated incidents. Statistics can be manipulated to support whichever side of an argument you're on, and reports splashed across the news only serve to fuel the flames of mass hysteria. I stand by what I said before: if this BSL continues, we will turn into colonial Salem for dogs. Thank you for giving us the opportunity for voicing our opinions and concerns, Robin. 
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Joanne Pack Member
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As far as "prejudice", I really don't think you can compare humans with dogs. I LOVE my dogs, but they are just that, dogs. People are an entire other ballgame. I am afraid of the POTENTIAL that these dogs have, that other breeds do not. Just like I am not for the freedom to bear arms. Guns do damage when in the wrong hands, so why take the chance? I am not for the banning of these breeds, but I can see it, and I am not against it. My grandparents doberman was a sweet dog, but for some reason he had an issue that day. He was a DOG, they are unpredictable by nature.
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Catherine Pack Member
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According to American Temperament Test Socienty, the only non-profit organization that titles dogs in Temperament Test (TT), of the "pit bull" and "pit bull type" dogs that attempted the test, between 84 and 91.5% passed (in order to pass the dog must complete all parts of the test according to the 3 judges). These dogs include American Pitbull Terrier (84.1%), American Staffordshire Terrier (83.9%), Staffordshire Bull Terrier (85.2%), and Bull Terrier (91.5%). The Rottweilers are also impressive with an almost 83% passing rate, as well as Boxers, 84.5%, and American Bulldogs with 83.1%. This evaluation of dogs that are tested based on normal occurrences during a walk in a city, tests the dog's natural behavior, and reaction to stimuli designed to test stability, shyness, aggressiveness, friendliness, and instict for protection. "Pitbulls" and "pitbull types" were and are not bred to be human-aggressive, and would fail the test if they showed aggression during the test, while as German Shepherd Dogs are allowed to show some protection, as they have been bred for this. TT information can be found at http://www.atts.org I found this information on the website for the petition against pit bull ban and BSL. The statistics that were quoted were from an independent, non-profit source. I visited that site, and found some interesting statistics. Virtually every breed was tested, and the results are posted. Pit Bull Terriers had an 84.3% passing rate, while Golden Retrievers had and 84.2% pass rate. 'Sweet' little Bichon Frises came in at 79.3%, and 'innocent' chihuahuas only had a 70.3% passing grade. And those 'adorable' Lhasa Apsos were at a distant 69.2%, and Miniature Poodles a mere 76.6%. Should we then pass breed-specific legislation on these 'harmless' small breeds, based on these figures? I can just hear the outcry from the 'seasoned citizens' if their precious Fifi were legislated against. I stand by what I said initially: better monitoring of the OWNERS and BREEDERS, not the breed.
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Joanne Pack Member
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I am not disagreeing, I would just not want to meet up with the 10% that flunked! And statistics can be slanted, just like any other numbers, no matter who puts them together.
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Robi Pack Leader
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http://gprime.net/flash.php/thepitbullproblem
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